The Korg M1 list – Jan. 1996

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 04:08:21 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: FTP Patches (Mac)§¶§
Hi!
I’m also looking for patches. I have to trade samples (no programs yet).
Mainly techno, analogue, drums and special atmospheric drones etc. Lemme
know if you’re up for a snail mail disk swap.

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com
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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 04:12:03 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: Combi parameter changes over MIDI

Hi!
I just noticed you have an ESI-32 as well as a Korg. Me too! Only, the
ESI-32 is new and I haven’t gotten to using it yet. Any tips, tricks,
how to exchange samples between Korg and ESI-32 (other than resampling)
would be appreciated. Or just a quick line on how you use your gear. 😉

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 19:58:36 -0500
From: noise@io.org
Subject: M1- The M1 Mailing List – 1996 and Beyond

Hello to both old and new subscribers to the Korg M1 mailing list. Welcome
to a new year and a new round of general info and tip swapping on our synth
of choice: the Korg M1 (and T’s too). The list has been down for the last
little bit, for reasons which I’ll explain. For new subscribers, it might
seem like a quiet little list but believe me it’s not.

The Spam of ’95:
***************
During the Christmas break, a strange thing happened to the Korg M1 list.
Suddenly, a number of so called “Undeliverable Messages” started to appear
in every subscribers mailbox with alarming rapidity. (Strange, since they
were so “Undeliverable”). I think each member received a total of about 100
messages. And if that weren’t enough, when members mailboxes filled up,
their ISP host’s machine bounced back the messages back to me! Often, I
would be greeted by 250 – 300 messages a day to download when I logged in.
Most of them were the “U.M.’s” , but a in amongst them would be a “What the
hell’s up with all these damn messages!” E-mail yelling out. The fact that
because of the holidays, I was not able to log-in for a couple of days only
made the problem worse.

I thought our innocent little list was hit by a Spammer. A spammer is
someone who either: a. Maliciously sends junk mail to a list, hoping  to
shut down the mail-server or just to be a pain in the butt, or b. Someone
who sends inappropriate or off-topic mail to many mailing lists at once
(i.e. advertisements, etc.). This, according to the List Managers Mailing
List, actually happens alot more that you’d think. Jeesh, some folks really
should get a life. 😛

In a effort to stop this so called “Spammer” I changed the list to  a
closed, moderated list. This means that all subscriptions and
unsubscriptions had to be approved by me, and all messages were bounced to
me first for approval before they were sent out to the list. This did seem
to stop the “U.M.s” but the “Approval” function of the mailing list
software (Majordomo) never worked right. My ISP was going though some
changes so they were of no help getting things going again. As a result no
messages posted during this time got through to the list.

Deamon Seeds:
*************
Well, it turns out that it wasn’t a Spammer at all. Someone closed their
internet account and forgot to unsubscribe. A normal message was sent to
the no-longer in existence internet address; the receiving machine bounced
the message back to Majordomo saying that the address was invalid (in an
unusual form that by-passed Majordomo’s internal checks for just such
occurrences). Majordomo promptly sent the message out to every one on the
list, including the no-longer existent internet address, who’s machine
bounced it back to Majordomo, and . . . well you get the idea. After a
while the messages got bigger and bigger and the receiving machine put the
part of the file into an attachment. Which of course made it look like it
was from some spammer who included some advertisement or virus or
something.

These two machines did this “message ping-ponging” with a certain amount of
glee, in my opinion, and has confirmed a suspicion of mine that all
computers are essentially evil and we should burn the lot of the
godless beasts and escape into the forests. However, since I’m still
paying off the loan for my godless beast, I won’t be doing such a sensible thing
for while.

An AOL user sent me a nice message saying that it was he who was the cause
of all this, but as the most of the messages had Swedish machine origins, I
don’t think it was.

Back To Normal?
*************
I’ve changed the list back to the old format (open subscription,
unmoderated) with a few behind the scenes changes to (hopefully) prevent
such an occurrence from happening again. Now you know why it’s important to
unsubscribe when you change e-mail address! 😉

A few messages were sent to the mailing list during this down time, and I
still have them. But, since that “Approval” thing still don’t seem to work,
I would suggest anyone who sent a message to re-send it. That way, your
name will appear on the “From” header.

Well, that’s about it everybody. Start posting! I’ll be contacting some
folks who unsubscribed during the <DARK TIME> to let them know what
happened, and hopefully get them back.

Welcome back and has anyone checked out the <Roto-Bass> sound from the M1
bank A or B? Mega cool!  It’s one of the BEST bass sounds I’ve heard yet.

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noise
noise @io.org                   http://www.io.org/~noise/

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:50:16 +0800 (HKT)
From: Steven Smith <spsmith@HK.Super.NET>
Subject: Re: M1- The M1 Mailing List – 1996 and Beyond

Congratulations, good to have the M1 group back online.

Has anyone any comments on calkwalk 4.0 pro audio.  Compared to the latest
cubase?
I’ve played with the demo, which incidently has an M1 patch set.  I like it,
but is it worth it?

a belated Happy New Year to everyone

Steven

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:46:29 -0500
From: John Sexton <jsexton@gate.net>
Subject: Re: M1- The M1 Mailing List – 1996 and Beyond

At 10:50 AM 1/10/96 +0800, you wrote:

>Has anyone any comments on calkwalk 4.0 pro audio.  Compared to the latest
>cubase?
>I’ve played with the demo, which incidently has an M1 patch set.  I like it,
>but is it worth it?

I have the full version of Cakewalk Pro Audio. Its worth it for some people
and not for others. Right now it still has a few glitches and is lacking a
couple of things that 3.01 had like CAL but a bug fix is due out this month
4.01 which will address a lot of common gripes. My general thinking on
Cakewalk Pro Audio right now is if you have a need to lay down lots of audio
and you have a powerful computer and a high quality digital audio card and a
good way to back up lots of data go for it. It really is a nice environment
to work in. If the above doesn’t apply to you and your music is mostly or
totally midi synth stuff the 3.01 version is probably a better way to go. In
other words if you have a 486DX4/100 or faster, 16MB or more of RAM a fast
EIDE or SCSI hard drive (preferably 2 drives with one for audio only) of 1GB
or more, a DAL Card D+ or Session-8 and a DAT backup or Zip or whatever CPA
is a cool program. My system is a little underpowered and the recording
quality of my SB16 (specifically the noise floor) has a lot to be desired. I
get about 4 tracks of what I would call multimedia presentation quality
audio synced to midi with an occasional hiccup using a 486DX2/66, 12MB ram,
EIDE 730MB hard drive and an Soundblaster16. I don’t know how it compares to
the newest version of Cubase Audio but they are probably similar. I think
the biggest difference between the two programs is the style of the
interface. The program I would like to try is Logic Audio since it looks
like it has a lot of interesting ways of approaching your music. The CPA
demo is pretty much exactly like the commercial version without the ability
to save your file so if it runs ok on your system the full version will too.
Overall I’m glad I bought it and plan to eventually upgrade my computer so
as to derive truly Pro Audio from it.
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J O H N  S E X T O N
jsexton@gate.net
http://www.gate.net/~jsexton/index.htm
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Subject: M1- bank select
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:19:00 -0800
From: Robert Clevenger <clev@cisco.com>

I sent this out over the holidays buyt I’m not sure if it made the
list.  So I’m resending.

I connected my Korg T3 up to Logic Audio running on a Mac.  I am able
to select all of the sounds in Program A (1-99) on the Korg from Logic
but I can’t seem to get to Program B or the Combinations.  I looked
through the documentation for some sort of bank select command but did
not find one.  I tried all of the selections in the bank select menu
in Logic to no avail.  I am prepared to write a custom bank select
message if only I knew what to put in it.  Any clues would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
– – rob

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From: Garth Boyd <Garth.Boyd@sofkin.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 08:42:08 EST
Subject: M1* Re: M1- The M1 Mailing List – 1996 and Beyond

> Welcome back and has anyone checked out the <Roto-Bass> sound from the M1
> bank A or B? Mega cool!  It’s one of the BEST bass sounds I’ve heard yet.

Is this a new sound? I do not recall it from the factory.
Is this a PCM / Program card product?

Cheers,
– —
Garth Boyd         Software Kinetics Ltd.       Ottawa    __ __
Voice: (613)831-2018 (4062)         Fax: (613)831-1836   < <<_<
boyd@sofkin.ca                               “Confido”    >_>
http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa811
“Diu/raic suas me/”

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 14:45:06 +0100
From: trntrm01@cidoc.iuav.unive.it (Michele Tornatore)
Subject: M1* Re: M1- bank select

Dear T series owners:

To achieve bank changes on T series you need:
– – a sequencer capable of handling/editing sys-ex data:
– – your faithful Korg T2EX.

To select a <BANK A PROGRAM> you need this sys-ex string:
F0 42 30 26 4E 02 00 F7
F0 42 30 26 4E 12 00 F7
followed by a program change.

For instance, if you are in COMBI mode and wanted to reach program 54
stored onto A bank you’d do the following:
Sequencer Time Location 1:1:000
F0 42 30 26 4E 02 00 F7
Sequencer Time Location 1:1:001
F0 42 30 26 4E 12 00 F7
Sequencer Time Location 1:1:002
Porgram change #54
Remember to insert these data into a track which belongs to the same midi
channel of your T2EX.

To select a <BANK B PROGRAM> you need this sys-ex string:
F0 42 30 26 4E 02 01 F7
F0 42 30 26 4E 02 10 F7
followed by a program change.

To select a <COMBINATION> you need this sys-ex string:
F0 42 30 26 4E 00 10 F7
F0 42 30 26 4E 10 00 F7
followed by a program change.

To select a <CARD PROGRAM> you need this sys-ex string:
F0 42 30 26 4E 02 10 F7
F0 42 30 26 4E 12 01 F7
followed by a program change.

To select a <CARD COMBINATION> you need this sys-ex string:
F0 42 30 26 4E 00 10 F7
F0 42 30 26 4E 10 01 F7
followed by a program change.

Hope this helps.
Cheers 😉 Michele (Mike)

Let me know if you encounter some problems.

“Omnes artes quae ad humanitatem pertinent habent
quoddam commune vinculum, et quasi cognatione
quadam inter se continentur.”

(CICERONE, Pro Archia, I, 2)

Michele Tornatore
e-mail: trntrm01@cidoc.iuav.unive.it
Snail: Via A. Aleardi, 7/B
30172 Mestre (Venezia) ITALY
Tel. 39 – 41 – 988074
Fax  39 – 41- 958747

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From: stracca@nisms.tei.ericsson.se (Stracca Stefano)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 16:59:56 +0100
Subject: M1* Hardware

Hello,
I’m new to the list but I own a M1 since 1989.
I’m looking for someone who can give me technical informations
on M1’s HW. The best would be to have infos on how the PCM cards
are organized in order to interface my own designs to the PCM connector.
I think HW engineers understand what I mean.

Thank you and sorry for the very technical subject.

Stefano.

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From: “Holger Wirtz” <wirtz@indy.ipt.rwth-aachen.de>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 17:48:06 +0000
Subject: M1* Re: M1- The M1 Mailing List – 1996 and Beyond

> Has anyone any comments on calkwalk 4.0 pro audio.  Compared to the latest
> cubase?

Uh, I’d like that info too …

Thank you, Holger

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From: ChickenSax@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 14:02:02 -0500
Subject: M1* Glad to be back.

I am glad that this list is working again. Happy New Year to everyone.

Serge.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 19:25:31 -0500
From: noise@io.org
Subject: Re: M1* Re: M1- The M1 Mailing List – 1996 and Beyond

At 8:42 AM 1/10/96, Garth Boyd wrote:>> Welcome back and has anyone checked
out the <Roto-Bass> sound from the M1
>> bank A or B? Mega cool!  It’s one of the BEST bass sounds I’ve heard yet.
>
>Is this a new sound? I do not recall it from the factory.
>Is this a PCM / Program card product?
>
>Cheers,

Nope! It’s one of the sounds that you could download from John Sexton’s
ultra cool Web page.

***********************************************************
noise
noise @io.org                   http://www.io.org/~noise/

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 19:29:09 -0500
From: noise@io.org
Subject: Re: M1* SAM1 – PCM slot expansion board for M1, M3, Wavestation

At 12:52 AM 1/11/96, Jacek Latanowicz wrote:
>The device is called Double Dutch SAM1. It is an expansion
>board for Korg M1, M1r, M3r, Wavestation (old PCMs probably not for
>Wavestation SR). It is plugged into PCM card slot,

I’ve heard about this device in lore and song but never in any real detail.

Please send the article! (At least to me and/or John S.)

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noise
noise @io.org                   http://www.io.org/~noise/

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jan 96 00:52:53 CET
From: Jacek Latanowicz <JACK%PLPUAM11@plearn.edu.pl>
Subject: M1* SAM1 – PCM slot expansion board for M1, M3, Wavestation

Sorry if anybody gets it twice. This is a re-sent…

Hello Krog users,

I haven’t cross-studied the huge amount of emails for last
few weeks due to my absence. I have been in Manchester, UK. I found
there an old SOS magazine (Sound-on-sound) which happened to be
very valuable for me. There is an article about a device I was
looking for just knowing it existed.
The device is called Double Dutch SAM1. It is an expansion
board for Korg M1, M1r, M3r, Wavestation (old PCMs probably not for
Wavestation SR). It is plugged into PCM card slot, has a memory which
probably can be expanded. It has a HD disk drive (1.44MB), reads and
stores samples in it’s memory which can be seen and used by M1 (or
other mentioned instrument). There are many details in the article.
If anybody is interested I can scan it down into text file and send
over this mailing list. There is even a picture of this product.
The device isn’t made by Korg, it’s third party thing. The price
staded there (Oct 92) is 650 UK Pounds which is about 1000 US$.
The file formats are the same as for Roland’s and Akai’s samplers.
Because I LOVE my M1, it’s user-friendly interface, and digital
effects I’m willing to pay to get the device. It would probably
make a sampler from M1. Imagine using own PCM’s !!!!
But there is a small problem. The phone number to the company
written there isn’t valid. I think the company which was selling it
in UK doesn’t exist anymore. Here come my 2 questions.
1. Did anybody use/seen this device ?
2. Where in the world can I buy this thing ????
It probably is produced either in Germany or Dutchland by the
mentioned Double Dutch company and Zodak.
Any information will be very helpful for me in reaching this product.

Thanks,

Jacek Latanowicz

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From: morritt@passport.ca
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 21:03 EST
Subject: Re: M1* Re: M1- The M1 Mailing List – 1996 and Beyond

Greetings!
I am also having difficulty locating this sound.  Where is it on John
Sexton’s page?
Thanks.
Rob

At 07:25 PM 10-01-96 -0500, you wrote:
>At 8:42 AM 1/10/96, Garth Boyd wrote:>> Welcome back and has anyone checked
>out the <Roto-Bass> sound from the M1
>>> bank A or B? Mega cool!  It’s one of the BEST bass sounds I’ve heard yet.
>>
>>Is this a new sound? I do not recall it from the factory.
>>Is this a PCM / Program card product?
>>
>>Cheers,
>
>Nope! It’s one of the sounds that you could download from John Sexton’s
>ultra cool Web page.
>
>***********************************************************
>noise
>noise @io.org                   http://www.io.org/~noise/
>
>***********************************************************

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 02:05:21 GMT
From: Donal Ryan <ryand@iol.ie>
Subject: Re: M1* SAM1 – PCM slot expansion board for M1, M3, Wavestation

At 00:52 11/01/96 CET, you wrote:
(snip)

It could be that the phone number is correct but the area codes in the UK
have changed….you should now place a “1” between the zero at the start of
the area code and the other digits….for example 021 now becomes 0121,etc.

Hope this might be of help.

DOnal Ryan,
ryand@iol.ie

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:56:13 +0200
From: “Ari Mononen” <AMONONEN@fi.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: M1* SAM1 – PCM slot expansion board for M1, M3, Wavestation

Hi Jacek

Could you please send me that article …

Thanks,

Ari Mononen

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Date: 11 Jan 96 00:52:53
From:”Jacek Latanowicz ” <owner-korg-m1-l@io.org>
To: korg-m1-l@io.org
Subject: M1* SAM1 – PCM slot expansion board for M1, M3, Wavestation
Reply-to: korg-m1-l@io.org
X-Orcl-Application: Return-Path: <owner-korg-m1-l@io.org>
X-Orcl-Application: Sender: owner-korg-m1-l@io.org
X-Orcl-Application: Precedence: bulk

Sorry if anybody gets it twice. This is a re-sent…

Hello Krog users,

I haven’t cross-studied the huge amount of emails for last
few weeks due to my absence. I have been in Manchester, UK. I found
there an old SOS magazine (Sound-on-sound) which happened to be
very valuable for me. There is an article about a device I was
looking for just knowing it existed.
The device is called Double Dutch SAM1. It is an expansion
board for Korg M1, M1r, M3r, Wavestation (old PCMs probably not for
Wavestation SR). It is plugged into PCM card slot, has a memory which
probably can be expanded. It has a HD disk drive (1.44MB), reads and
stores samples in it’s memory which can be seen and used by M1 (or
other mentioned instrument). There are many details in the article.
If anybody is interested I can scan it down into text file and send
over this mailing list. There is even a picture of this product.
The device isn’t made by Korg, it’s third party thing. The price
staded there (Oct 92) is 650 UK Pounds which is about 1000 US$.
The file formats are the same as for Roland’s and Akai’s samplers.
Because I LOVE my M1, it’s user-friendly interface, and digital
effects I’m willing to pay to get the device. It would probably
make a sampler from M1. Imagine using own PCM’s !!!!
But there is a small problem. The phone number to the company
written there isn’t valid. I think the company which was selling it
in UK doesn’t exist anymore. Here come my 2 questions.
1. Did anybody use/seen this device ?
2. Where in the world can I buy this thing ????
It probably is produced either in Germany or Dutchland by the
mentioned Double Dutch company and Zodak.
Any information will be very helpful for me in reaching this product.

Thanks,

Jacek Latanowicz

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 03:42:23 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: M1* KORG M1 SAM1 expansion

Hi there!

Saw a question posted on a device called the SAM1. It’s essentially a
sample player that reads AKAI disks and plugs into the PCM slot. For
those who are interested: it was carried and produced by a Dutch firm
called Zadok, and I have the phone number for you: +31-70-3200209. I’m
not sure if they carry it anymore. I do have a sample disk at home
giving a complete demo and product description. If there’s enough respons
and if I ever get my #%$%^^# PC working again, I’ll post that and some
WAV files…

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jan 96 12:27:51 CET
From: Jacek Latanowicz <JACK%PLPUAM11@plearn.edu.pl>
Subject:      Re: M1* KORG M1 SAM1 expansion

On Thu, 11 Jan 1996 03:42:23 EST R. Lohman said:
>Hi there!
>
>Saw a question posted on a device called the SAM1. It’s essentially a
>sample player that reads AKAI disks and plugs into the PCM slot. For
>those who are interested: it was carried and produced by a Dutch firm
>called Zadok, and I have the phone number for you: +31-70-3200209. I’m
>not sure if they carry it anymore. I do have a sample disk at home
>giving a complete demo and product description. If there’s enough respons
>and if I ever get my #%$%^^# PC working again, I’ll post that and some
>WAV files…
>
>Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
>Rein Lohman
>IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
>Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com

Hello there ,

Thakks for the number to Zadok. I called them and received following
information.
The current price of the device is about 950$ and the device is still
beeing manufactured. (I think the price is high but worth it)
They don’t sell it via the company mentioned in the SOS (sound on sound)
OCT 92′ magazine. I’ve sent them a fax with my personal details and they
promised to send me ordering information right away.
The device’s memory is 512kB but can be expanded to 1MB which is
quite enough for PCMs.
The rest of technical details will be in the article which I have to
scan down first. It will take some time but I should be able to send it
to the list on friday or saturday.
If anybody is interested in ordering information here’s additional
fax number to Zadok :
(+31 70) 3200345     – fax
and the phone number mentioned earlier :
(+31 70) 3200209     – phone
btw, the guy speaks english very well.

Hope this helps.

Jacek L.

Ps. I hope we find someone who used this thing or seen it in action…
I’m 100% convinced to buy the device.

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 08:46:36 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: M1* KORG SAM1 expansion

Wow!
People act fast –considering I put the number to Zadok up only hours ago
and people are already ordering… I will give the demo CD that I have
a good listen and publish my findings tomorrow. If I’m in the neighboor-
hood I’ll visit Zadok and ask for a full product demonstration. I wanted
to get a demo from their Quasimidi Raven anyways. Hopefully this weekend.

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 11:08:50 -0800
From: Tim Loepp <timl@xplor.com>
Subject: Re: M1* SAM1 – PCM slot expansion board for M1, M3, Wavestation

Jacek Latanowicz wrote:
>
> Sorry if anybody gets it twice. This is a re-sent…
>
> Hello Krog users,
>
>  I haven’t cross-studied the huge amount of emails for last
> few weeks due to my absence. I have been in Manchester, UK. I found
> there an old SOS magazine (Sound-on-sound) which happened to be
> very valuable for me. There is an article about a device I was
> looking for just knowing it existed.
>  The device is called Double Dutch SAM1. It is an expansion
> board for Korg M1, M1r, M3r, Wavestation (old PCMs probably not for
> Wavestation SR). It is plugged into PCM card slot, has a memory which
> probably can be expanded. It has a HD disk drive (1.44MB), reads and
> stores samples in it’s memory which can be seen and used by M1 (or
> other mentioned instrument). There are many details in the article.
> If anybody is interested I can scan it down into text file and send
> over this mailing list. There is even a picture of this product.
> The device isn’t made by Korg, it’s third party thing. The price
> staded there (Oct 92) is 650 UK Pounds which is about 1000 US$.
> The file formats are the same as for Roland’s and Akai’s samplers.
> Because I LOVE my M1, it’s user-friendly interface, and digital
> effects I’m willing to pay to get the device. It would probably
> make a sampler from M1. Imagine using own PCM’s !!!!
>  But there is a small problem. The phone number to the company
> written there isn’t valid. I think the company which was selling it
> in UK doesn’t exist anymore. Here come my 2 questions.
> 1. Did anybody use/seen this device ?
> 2. Where in the world can I buy this thing ????
>  It probably is produced either in Germany or Dutchland by the
> mentioned Double Dutch company and Zodak.
> Any information will be very helpful for me in reaching this product.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacek Latanowicz

– —
TIM
timl@xplor.com
“I am what I am, and thats all that I am.” (Popeye the Sailor)

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jan 96 13:22:39 CET
From: Jacek Latanowicz <JACK%PLPUAM11@plearn.edu.pl>
Subject: M1* SAM1 again, about the article

Hello Korgers,

I scanned down the article which is quite long and interesting.
I think You will find it that way. Sorry about the format of long
and narrow column, but I just don’t have time to make it a nice
looking document. I barely had time to correct the scanning (so sorry
for any bugs that might be there). There is also a GIF picture of
the device, but I don’t know how to send it and where. It’s about
70KB long.
I think that the title of the article is a little inacurate.
It is stated clearly that the SAM1 is for M3r, T1, T2, T3, Wavestation
as well. So limiting to M1 is not the point.

cheers,

Jacek L.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jan 96 13:28:43 CET
From: Jacek Latanowicz <JACK%PLPUAM11@plearn.edu.pl>
Subject:      Re: M1* KORG SAM1 expansion

On Thu, 11 Jan 1996 08:46:36 EST R. Lohman said:
>Wow!
>People act fast –considering I put the number to Zadok up only hours ago
>and people are already ordering… I will give the demo CD that I have
>a good listen and publish my findings tomorrow. If I’m in the neighboor-
>hood I’ll visit Zadok and ask for a full product demonstration. I wanted
>to get a demo from their Quasimidi Raven anyways. Hopefully this weekend.
>
>Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
>Rein Lohman
>IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
>Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com

Hello Rein,

thank You for the information on the phone number. From what You write
You live not far away from the company. I think that for some of us here
any information might be valuable. You can see the interest of the people
who asked for the article. However nobody exactly knows if the high price
is good enough for the device. So it would be very good if You could
maybe later give information about the demo CD. Maybe You can find out
more, expecially about things form the article…
I might be one of few people who already decided to buy this thing.
I don’t have a big studio, just 2 synths, a mixer, few computers…
But I love M1, and lately bought Roland JV880 which maybe sounds better
but it just isn’t it. The unfriendly user-interface, stupid effects
which are a pain in the b**t. Up till today I can’t understand why
doesn’t the reverb effect not work on “pick bass” while it works
on other patches in multisound…just can’t compare it to sweet simplicity
of Korg M1 (long live the KING 🙂 gee, I don’t know if it’s he Korg
or she Korg….whatever)
This is why expanding M1 to tons of PCMs is making a sampler out of it.
Hopefully it’s not just a far-away fantasy. This is why any information
is very valuable for me.
Thanks in advance,

Jacek L.

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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 08:55:22 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: M1* KORG SAM1 continued…

Hello,

Didn’t have time yet to listen to the SAM1 demo CD. Also, about putting
a demo wave file up: to accurately represent the quality of the device
it would have to be a 44100 Hz 16-bit stereo file which can get very
large (1 MB per 6 seconds), so I’m not sure if that’s the way to go.
Maybe ordering the demo CD from ZADOK (see earlier notes) will be better.

Meanwhile, I do believe the device acts as a sample player only — i.e.
you can’t record your own samples. This makes it a pretty expensive
option in my view, especially considering that AKAI came out with a fully
featured 32-voice 16-bit stereo sampler four roughly the same price and
2 MB RAM to boot.But, over the weekend I’ll listen to the CD, try to
find out more about the specs and let you know on monday.

Have a great weekend everybody.

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com

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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 08:58:32 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: M1* KORG SAM1 expansion

I’ll see what I can dig up. I live in Utrecht, but business takes me fair
ly often to The Hague, where ZADOK is located. Hopefully next week (this
weekend will be unlikely).

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com
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From: “Sherwin H. Bostock” <shbostoc@uab-admin.vpad.uab.edu>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 08:25:52 CST
Subject: M1* M1 Bank/ Patch Librarian

Hello everyone,

Happy New Years to all, help help help, I’m trying out the M1
Bank/Patch Librarian and running into all kinds of heck.. Receiving
data from the M1 is no problem, its when I go to save the data to
disk is where the problem occurs.  I get an error that saids “?don’t
see path at 127 or ?don’t see path at 0.  Whats going? or I may get
the same error when selecting M1 to Disk sysex dump “prog, Comb, All,
Global, etc.  Can someone please instruct me on this program the help
menu does not seem to help.  I need to know more about the saving
data process.  Thanks in advance for your help.
Sherwin

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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 11:59:00 -0500
From: afn05890@afn.org (Ralph P. Juliano)
Subject: M1* New M1 Librarian

Greetings:

If anyone is interested in a new Editor/Librarian for the M1, I found
SoundLib 1.01.  It seems to work smoother on my machine than the M1 Banks
program.  It also supports mutiple synths and writes files compatible with
Cakewalk.  Download it from:

http://www.webcom.com/playloud/SoundLib/download.html

Make sure to set the MidiIn Buffer Size variable in the Soundlib.ini to
3000.  It is initially set to 512 and is not large enough to receive all 100
sounds from the M1.

RJ

——-
From: Christophe DUPERTHUY <cduper@rfv.insa-lyon.fr>
Subject: M1* I’m back…
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 18:19:12 MET

Hello,
I’m sorry to disturb you : I’ve just bought the Midi Cable
yesterday. I’ve got a problem : the cable is made of 2 Dins, 1 Midi In
and 1 Midi Out (that’s Ok for the M1), but I’ve got two other “prises”
on the other side, with 16 pins : one male and one female. I remeber the
male is ok for the soundcard, but I don’t know what to do with the
“female” (Oh ! Sorry !!! :-)).
Now, if there’s no problem to let the female alone, how could I
dump my M1 on the computer : I try to use Sysex (on Windows, the Icon
represents 2 Dins that are linked…) and start Receive_Midi ; a window
opens and there’s a start button (and a cancel one) ; I switch on the
Start ; Then I go on the M1, switch on Global, then 7 (that is Program
Dump ???) and switch on Dump key (on the right) ; the “screen” writes
“processing…” for a while and then stops. On the computer, nothing
happens ! And after a few minutes, it writes “No Data Received”…
Here are my questions, if you can answer (please) :
– – Is there a problem with the Cable (it is sold for a Midi Sound Blaster
and I’ve got a SB compatible card, that is not a Sound Blaster).
– – Do I mistake with the Dump procedure ?

Thanks in advance. I will be back on Monday morning…
Enjoy your Week-End. Bye

Christophe.
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From: ChickenSax@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 13:21:53 -0500
Subject: Re: M1* KORG SAM1 expansion

Hi guys,

I would love to read the article about SAM1.
So fare this is how I see this SAM1 idea.

As you know the M1 is a killer synth.  It would be great to add some fresh
samples to it. But hey, nothing new, there is a serial killer synth–T3.   T3
is basically an M1 with all those things we wish the M1 had (8MB of ROM,
large graphical display, 3,5″ floppy drive etc.). One of those “things” is
1MB of internal RAM and ability to load and FULLY utilize 1MB of
multisamples.  But let’s get to the point. I own one of T3’s EX and I have
experimented with samples using  AI synthesis (Advanced Integrated) for quite
some time. I sample and “shape” samples with my Macintosh using Alchemy
sample editing software and then dump them to my T. To create multisounds I
use MultiMaker–a program unleashed by Korg USA after they discontinued
making T-Series (If anyone would like to get MultiMaker free, contact me).
Now, I dumped so many different samples to my T that were sampled on
different machines such as EmaxII, Akai S1000, S900,PeavySX and Ensoniq EPS.
Believe me, not all samples sound good on T. I had to resample some of them
using my Alchemy to make them acceptable, in some cases it helped, in some
didn’t. The best sounding (after Korg DSM1) samples were sampled at 32khz
using 12bit AkaiS900. Those samples sounded better than those 16bit from
AkaiS1000 (after conversion to mono).  But even some of those from S900
sounded like garbage in my Korg. The point I am making is that not all of
samples from SAM1 with sound right on your M1. Do not expect to load an Akai
sample to your M1 and to sound similar to Korg PCM cards where you have
already made multisamples (on Korg DSM1 sampler) along with prog./global
data.  Here are some questions:  How do you map samples across M1’s keyboard
(create multis)? Using drum kits? If yes, where do you store global/program
data? In SAM1 on to the same diskette, or on MCR03 cards? How about power
compatibility with US/Japan, we use 110V
Well, SAM1 sounds like a nice invention, but a little out of date for a
sample player.  We store samples on CD-ROM and HD today.  After all, how many
Akai (and which Akai, operating system differs in different types of
samplers) diskettes can you collect these days.
I don’t know about Europe, but here in NYC  you can get a T3EX for $1200 and
have it all internal.  So if you are desperate for this sample playing
feature and love your M1, here is an idea:
Sell your M1, buy a round trip ticket to NYC, take that $1000 you were going
to spend on SAM1, buy T3EX, contact me, so we can have a cup of tea, return
to wherever your home is and enjoy sample playing.

Long post, isn’t it?

Serge.

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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 22:27:32 +0100
From: trntrm01@cidoc.iuav.unive.it (Michele Tornatore)
Subject: M1* T&M series Patch changes etc.

Hi M&T series users!
Here are some cool stuff that I hope you’ll find useful.

These sys-ex strings work with M1, M1R, M1EX and M1REX. The instrument must
be set on midi channel 1.
These strings can be put into your sequencer tracks and MUST BE FOLLOWED BY
A PROGRAM CHANGE. Please bear in mind that all strings refer to midi
channel 1.

To recall an INTERNAL PROGRAM:
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 12 00 F7
(+program change)

To recall an INTERNAL COMBINATION:
F0 42 30 19 4E 00 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 10 00 F7
(+program change)

To recall an CARD PROGRAM:
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 12 01 F7
(+program change)

To recall an CARD COMBINATION:
F0 42 30 19 4E 00 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 10 01 F7
(+program change)

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
FOR T1, T2 and T3 USERS ONLY
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

These sys-ex strings work with T1, T2 and T3. The instrument must be set on
midi channel 1.
These strings can be put into your sequencer tracks and MUST BE FOLLOWED BY
A PROGRAM CHANGE. Please bear in mind that all strings refer to midi
channel 1.

To recall an INTERNAL PROGRAM A BANK:
F0 42 30 26 4E 02 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 12 00 F7
(+program change)

To recall an INTERNAL PROGRAM B BANK:
F0 42 30 26 4E 02 01 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7
(+program change)

To recall an INTERNAL COMBINATION:
F0 42 30 26 4E 00 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 10 00 F7
(+program change)

To recall an CARD PROGRAM:
F0 42 30 26 4E 02 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 12 01 F7
(+program change)

To recall an CARD COMBINATION:
F0 42 30 26 4E 00 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 10 01 F7
(+program change)

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
FOR M1, M1EX, M1R and M1REX USERS ONLY
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

Now let’s go a little step further and set to off M1 internal effects.
As usual M1 is set on midi channel 1.

SINGLE PROGRAM:
F0 42 30 19 4E 03 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 0E 08 21 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 10 08 21 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7

DOUBLE PROGRAM:
F0 42 30 19 4E 03 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 17 08 21 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 19 08 21 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

Now let’s try another effects combination. As usual M1 is set on midi channel 1.
In example 1 we’ll see a single program with FX1 set to HALL and FX2 set to
STEREO DELAY and in example 2 we’ll see a double program with FX1 set to
LARGE ROOM and FX2 set to EXCITER.

EXAMPLE 1 (SINGLE PROGRAM)
FX1 = HALL
FX2 = STEREO DELAY:
F0 42 30 19 4E 03 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 0E 08 00 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 10 08 09 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7

EXAMPLE 1 (DOUBLE PROGRAM)
FX1 = LARGE ROOM
FX2 = EXCITER:
F0 42 30 19 4E 03 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 17 08 04 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 19 08 16 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7

In example 3 we’ll see a single program with FX1 set to PHASER 2 and FX2
set to CROSS FLANGER and in example 4 we’ll see a double program with FX1
set to LARGE ROOM and FX2 set to DELAY/DELAY.

EXAMPLE 3 (SINGLE PROGRAM)
FX1 = PHASER 2
FX2 = CROSS FLANGER:
F0 42 30 19 4E 03 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 0E 08 10 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 10 08 0E 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7

EXAMPLE 4 (DOUBLE PROGRAM)
FX1 = LARGE ROOM
FX2 = DELAY/DELAY:
F0 42 30 19 4E 03 10 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 17 08 041 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 41 19 08 1C 00 F7
F0 42 30 19 4E 02 10 F7

PLEASE I WANT FEEDBACK FROM YOU! LET ME KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR
EXPERIENCES WITH SYS-EX STRINGS!!!!

Cheers 🙂 Michele

BTW Let me know if you think that it’s worth an effort. Thanks!

“Omnes artes quae ad humanitatem pertinent habent
quoddam commune vinculum, et quasi cognatione
quadam inter se continentur.”

(CICERONE, Pro Archia, I, 2)

Michele Tornatore
e-mail: trntrm01@cidoc.iuav.unive.it
Snail: Via A. Aleardi, 7/B
30172 Mestre (Venezia) ITALY
Tel. 39 – 41 – 988074
Fax  39 – 41- 958747

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 14:40:52 -0500
From: noise@io.org
Subject: M1* SAM1-Sample expander for Korg M1 (part 1 of 2)

Here’s the article from Jacek Latanowicz. Thanks Jacek! Impressive
scanning I must say. I’ve fixed up the line breaks and spell checked it.
It’s posted in two parts since the full article surpasses the file size
limit of the mailing list.

– ——————————————————————

Magazine : Sound On Sound (UK) Nov. 92
Title : *** DOUBLE DUTCH SAM1 ***
Sample expander for Korg M1
Author : Derek Johnson

Scanned and supported by Jacek Latanowicz (jack@vm.amu.edu.pl)

Adding new waveforms to the complement already found in Korg’s M1
synthesizer has always been easy, if not cheap; simply buy a card full
of new waveforms, plug it into the PCM Data slot, and your synth has a
whole new palette of sounds. However useful that may be you’re always
stuck with someone else’s choices, and building up a collection is
expensive. Just think what it would be like If you could buy a box that
would let you grab samples from your own sampler and use them in your
M1 . . .

Well, it’s taken cooperation between two Dutch companies – Zadok
and Double Dutch – to come up with just such a system, in the shape of
the _Double Dutch SAM 1 Sample Expander_. While not as elegant as just
plugging in a card, the SAM1 is rather more powerful; a half megabyte of
memory in a 1 U rack-mounting front end with a built in high density
(1.44MB) disk drive. Samples can be received over MIDI via the Sample
Dump Standard, or – in a very clever twist – by loading the samples
direct from your sampler library disks. Quite a few samplers are
supported (the sample format is identical to Korg’s T1 and DSM1, and
foreign formats supported include Akai and Roland; see box for complete
list) and the drive will read double density disks as well as high
density types. Doubling up as a general purpose MIDI datafiler and as a
MIDI Song File playback machine makes the SAM1 even more useful – MIDI
files can be read from ST or MS-DOS format disks (double density only).
So, everything you ever wanted from your M1 is provided by this cunning
device. T-series, M3R, M1R and Wavestation owners needn’t look glum, SAM1
is designed to work with these instruments as well. Since I used an M1
for the review, it’s that instrument which will be referred to
throughout.

The SAM1 has a look best described as utilitarian. It is housed in a
grey 1U rack- mounting module that connects to the M1’s PCM slot (the
one at the rear) via a multi-way ribbon cable; the M1 therefore ‘sees’
the SAM1’s samples as new waveforms on a card. A couple of MIDI sockets
complete the connections. Besides the disk drive, the front panel
features a small but informative LCD and eight function keys which are
used to control the SAM1; these keys are rather arcanely labelled with a
variety of horizontal, vertical and double arrows, but their operation
becomes familiar fairly quickly. They are basically used to move around
the six main headings of the software (Load, Load Single, Save, MIDI,
Edit and Disk), choose a function within each group (there are at least
two), choose a parameter, and change the value; Execute and Cancel keys
confirm or abort any operations.

Internally, you have about 512k of PCM memory. The rear panel, besides
the MIDI connections and the PCM connector, has an ‘option’ bus – no
details on this as yet. An LCD contrast knob is also (inconveniently) at
the rear, but this is a rather coarse device: the display on the
(pre-production) review model was either full on or blank, but this has
apparently been fixed in production models. The power supply is
external, but the unit supplied is a compact device that runs on any
voltage between 100V and 240V, outputtlng the required 5V.

The sound architecture is simple: the SAM1 holds a number of samples.
These sounds can be treated as Drum Sounds, or they can be split across
the keyboard, as a Multisound in Double Dutch speak. Samples in
Multisounds are confusingly referred to as Related Sounds, Rel-sounds or
Rels. The available memory can be used for a maximum of 69 Rels; Drum
Sounds are limited to 29, and the total number of Multisounds available
is 28. While editing at sample level is limited to naming the sample or
turning a loop on or off, the Multisound process involves comprehensive
mapping, level adjustment and tuning, as well as filter cutoff and decay
offsets for each sample. The Multisound itself can also be named – it is
the name which eventually turns up on the M1.

*OPERATION*
===========
Getting up and running with the SAM1 involves connecting the multi-way
cable to your M1’s PCM slot, as well as MIDI-In to MIDI-Out and MIDI-Out
to MIDI-In; then you switch on. The MIDI connections are needed for the
transfer of Program and Combi information. You’ll need to insert a SAM1
system disk, or a sound disk which also has the system software
installed on it, wait a few seconds, and choose which instrument you’re
using ( the system software is slightly different for each machine ), and
then choose whether to copy the system or simply run it. The first time
you switch on the SAM1, you should back up the system and use the copy
– – this is just sensible practice. There’s also a demo disk you can try,
which loads a MIDI File plus a pile of samples and patch and global data
for the M1; this shows off the SAM1 to rather good effect. Before
running the demo, be sure to back up the memory of your M1 – patches
will be over-written in the demo process.

There are a number of disks supplied with SAM1, and it’s simplicity
itself to load the samples contained therein and try them out. Just
select _Load PCM Data_, and press _Execute_. Choose a program on the M1, go
into _Edit Prog_ and scroll to Oscillator 1, and zoom past internal
waveform 99. It’s here that you’ll find the card waveforms ( prefixed C ),
which is, of course, what the SAM1 is giving you. You could also load up
some Program and Combination data along with the PCM data from the
supplied disks. You can also load sample disks from your own library,
provided your sampler is supported, or load in samples to the SAM1 over
MIDI. This is just as easy as using SAM1 disks; Sample Dump is as fast
as we’ve grown to expect it – ie. not fast enough – but it works well.

SAM1’s disk operations are a little primitive, in that lots of different
sorts of data can be saved to disk, but it appears that individual
‘files’ can’t be named, and multiple versions of the same sort of dump
can’t be saved to the same disk. For example, if you were to save a set
of 99 M1 programs to disk, then wanted to save another 99 different
programs to the same disk, the second batch would overwrite the first –
not very useful. And even if you could save multiple files, it would be
impossible to retrieve them since they don’t have names. This hardly
makes for the most efficient use of high density disks; although their
cost might be at an all-time low, it would still be better to be able
to use a disk to its full capacity.

The MIDI side of the SAM1 has been rather well thought out. The only
real problem is that MIDI connections have been included at all: I
mean, we all need two more MIDI cables to accommodate, whether at our
MIDI patchbay or hanging off the back of our keyboard rig, don’t we?
Accepting that this is necessary, however, the addition of a SAM1
should enhance your whole MIDI setup, not just the M1, Wavestation,
T1 or whatever it’s attached to, since you can treat it as a data
storage device. Not only can the SAM1 receive and send sample dumps
over MIDI, it can actually transmit the dump request. This is handy
for those samplers (such as Roland’s S330 and S550) which need to be
requested to send a sample dump. All 12-bit samples are converted to
16-bit in the process, and the SAM1 starts to look more like a handy
control centre for sample exchange if you work with more than one
sampler. As mentioned earlier, the SAM1 functions as a data filer and
MIDI Song File playback machine; the same buffer area is used for
both jobs, so be aware that any song in memory when you accept or
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