The Korg M1 list – Mar 1996

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:23:25 -0800
From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks)
Subject: M1* Private Patch Sharing

Hi Everybody!!!!!  I am in need of some GREAT orchestral sounds for my M1
and am hoping that someone out there would be willing to do some trading
(by private e-mail, of course).  I’ve got a large library of sounds that
you would be welcome to choose from.  I would prefer to send/receive
patches in Galaxy format but can work with whatever else as long as it’ll
be compatible with my Mac.
Thanks in advance for your responses,
Craig

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:10:20 -0500
From: noise@io.org
Subject: M1* (Mac) M1 Librarian

Forrest Trenholm sent a nifty M1 Librarian to the list, but do to a feature
of the mailing list software that limits messages to under 1000 lines, it
was bounced to me.(It does this to prevent the “Undeliverable message”
problem we had before).

I’ve uploaded it to John Sexton and he will post it to his way cool Web Page.
John’s Web page is at:

http://www.gate.net/~jsexton/index.htm

It’s in BinHexed Stuff-if format so all you have to do is drag it to
Stuff-it Expander and all should be well.

The program looks a tad on the old side. The author’s name seems real
familiar. Anyone know his e-mail address? Maybe we could send him a note to
see if his address is still valid, and if he has any plans to update it.

I haven’t had a chance to try it out, but hopefully soon!

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noise
noise@io.org                   http://www.io.org/~noise/

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Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 09:58:14 -0900
From: ralf@eskimo.com (Saralynn Andrew)
Subject: M1* Lack of posts

This is getting weird.  Is anyone else having trouble getting posts?  Out of
325 (hadn’t logged in for a couple of days) there was only one M1 post.  The
machine knit group had over 100!  Is there something going on??

*    Saralynn Andrew                 *   Now abidest these three–
*    ralf@eskimo.com                 *       Faith, Hope & Charity
*    The Electronic Secretary        *   But the greatest of these is
*    Kirkland  WA  USA               *       Charity

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From: ChickenSax@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 15:23:37 -0500
Subject: M1* Sounds available

Hi all!
So I sold my T3EX, but I still enjoy this forum and I am willing to share as
much of my M1 knowledge as I can.
Someone recently has asked if it is possible to construct multisamples in a
T-Board using SysEx. The answer is YES, if you have a Mac computer. There is
a freeware program that Korg USA unleashed after they discontinued the
T-Series, which enables you to make multisamples by using your Mac. I am not
sure if I still have it in my computer, but I have sent the program to
several interested T users from this list, so it should be available. Altough
I don’t have my T anymore, I still have my sound library. I have a great 50
disk sample library for Tex and many (3000) programs for T and M1 on
T-Floppies and Galaxy lib. I also have a program card for M1ex/T with nice
sounds. This card is particularly usefull for M1EX users as the second sound
bank. I don’t use those sounds anymore, so please e-mail me if you are
interested in any of the above.

All the best, Serge.

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 00:35:04 +0100
From: smalt@nedernet.nl (Chris Smalt)
Subject: Re: M1* downloading help

acdas@comet.net (M.Long) wrote:

>Can anyone help a pre-neophyte computer person figure out how to download
>M1 programs (patches). When I try to download ones that I see, the greater
>percentage are unreadable by my MAC Centris 650.

If the ones you can’t read are .SYX files, “Bulk Sysex Utility” is a Mac
program that will deal with them. I’ll upload it if you let me know where
and when. One thing though: this program doesn’t work if you have a fancy
Midi interface like a Studio 4/5 or Midi Time Piece.

>What do PCM cards do?

PCM (Pulse Code Modulation) is the name for the way sounds are digitized,
so the M1 can use them as starting points for programs and combis. The M1
has 4 Megabytes of PCM samples built in. PCM cards are a way of getting
more samples. They are sold with another card containing programs that
demonstrate the use of the samples on the PCM card. I’ve seen a drum card,
woodwinds, strings, nature sounds (there were some others). They’re
expensive and don’t hold a lot of data.

Regards,

Chris

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Date:   Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:59:32 -0400
From: Nick Mattison <ac125@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
Subject: Re: M1* Sounds available

Serge, That program for the Mac is on John Sexton’s web site I think it
is called midiex or something. I downloaded it myself hoping it might be
for the Atari but (sob!) it was not to be.

Does anyone know if such a program is available for Atari??

Incidentally Serge, I think you should hang on to your patches. Perhaps
one day you will pick up another T…I think you will miss it!

Perhaps I could just ask your advice Serge before you forget how the
thing worked! When I hook up my T3EX to either my sequencer
(Atari..Cubase) or to my Obenheimer Drummer which I have just bought over
the net, I find the following problem. If I try to change patches in edit
combi mode or combi mode or Seq mode, the patches change 2 at a time.

For example if I am on patch A23 and I use the up arrow it will move to
A25. This is very annoying if you happen to want A24 or any other even
numbered patch. If I up and down with the slider long enough it will
eventually latch on to the even numbers but I feel sure I am screwing
something up to do this. Any advice???

All the best    ………………..Nick…

ac125@ccn.cs.dal.ca

On Sat, 2 Mar 1996 ChickenSax@aol.com wrote:

> Hi all!
> So I sold my T3EX, but I still enjoy this forum and I am willing to share as
> much of my M1 knowledge as I can.
> Someone recently has asked if it is possible to construct multisamples in a
> T-Board using SysEx. The answer is YES, if you have a Mac computer. There is
> a freeware program that Korg USA unleashed after they discontinued the
> T-Series, which enables you to make multisamples by using your Mac. I am not
> sure if I still have it in my computer, but I have sent the program to
> several interested T users from this list, so it should be available. Altough
> I don’t have my T anymore, I still have my sound library. I have a great 50
> disk sample library for Tex and many (3000) programs for T and M1 on
> T-Floppies and Galaxy lib. I also have a program card for M1ex/T with nice
> sounds. This card is particularly usefull for M1EX users as the second sound
> bank. I don’t use those sounds anymore, so please e-mail me if you are
> interested in any of the above.
>
>  All the best, Serge.
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Date:   Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:02:29 -0400
From: Nick Mattison <ac125@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
Subject: M1* Re: Obenheimer Drummer

Hi everyone, I have just bought this and have set it up with my T3EX. I
have promised several of you  I would send a report once I got it. Well
it has just arrived and I have it strung up. However I really have not
had time to really put it through its paces yet. Will post a message in a
week or so with some info.

All the best    ………………..Nick…

ac125@ccn.cs.dal.ca

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:17:30 -0500
From: noise@io.org
Subject: Re: M1* Sounds available

At 3:23 PM on 3/2/96, ChickenSax@aol.com wrote:
>Hi all!
>So I sold my T3EX, but I still enjoy this forum and I am willing to share as
>much of my M1 knowledge as I can.
>Altough
>I don’t have my T anymore, I still have my sound library. I have a great 50
>disk sample library for Tex and many (3000) programs for T and M1 on
>T-Floppies and Galaxy lib. I also have a program card for M1ex/T with nice
>sounds. This card is particularly usefull for M1EX users as the second sound
>bank. I don’t use those sounds anymore, so please e-mail me if you are
>interested in any of the above.

Hows about uploading the M1 sounds to John Sexton’s Web Page? That way
you’ll share them with the world!

or at least me… ;^)

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noise
noise@io.org                   http://www.io.org/~noise/

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From: NATEGOULET@ids.net
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:17:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: M1* Lack of posts

I don’t think there are posts everyday.  Nothings wrong as far as I know.

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Date: 03 Mar 96 00:45:38 EST
From: Graeme White <72103.1507@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: M1* Private Patch Sharing

Hi – I have a reasonably large & varied collection, in Galaxy format,
which I’ll be happy to mail to you so you can pick & choose. Probably
better than any other method, but you choose!

Graeme

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Date:   Sun, 3 Mar 1996 16:57:36 -0400
From: Nick Mattison <ac125@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
Subject: M1* Re: patches..

Hi Rein,

On John Sexton’s web site, if you follow #33 (korg synth zone) you will
find a section there on “patchthing” and LOTS of M1 patches. The
patchthing will only work on an IBM computer so I am unable to download
them since I am Atari based.

I wonder if you or anyone else on the list has explored these patches and
if so I wonder if they could be downloaded to John’s web site in .syx
format so that everyone could then use them no matter what their computer
platform?

All the best    ………………..Nick…

ac125@ccn.cs.dal.ca

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:19:51 +0100
From: reg1537@comune.bologna.it (Dante Turrini)
Subject: M1* T series software: I AM INTERESTED!

Dear Serge,

>Someone recently has asked if it is possible to construct multisamples in a
>T-Board using SysEx. The answer is YES, if you have a Mac computer. There is
>a freeware program that Korg USA unleashed after they discontinued the
>T-Series, which enables you to make multisamples by using your Mac. I am not
>sure if I still have it in my computer, but I have sent the program to
>several interested T users from this list, so it should be available.
I was the one. If you still have this program, PLEASE send it to me!
Although I am an Atari user, I have access to the Macintosh, and maybe I
will migrate to it in the near future. Still, it’s always better this than
nothing.

>I don’t have my T anymore, I still have my sound library. I have a great 50
>disk sample library for Tex and many (3000) programs for T and M1 on
>T-Floppies and Galaxy lib. I also have a program card for M1ex/T with nice
>sounds. This card is particularly usefull for M1EX users as the second sound
>bank. I don’t use those sounds anymore, so please e-mail me if you are
>interested in any of the above.
If you make a fair quotation. I might be interested in buying from you a
lot of this material. Is the card Program only or also PCM data? in the
latter case, I am VERY interested to it, since I own also a WS-A/D and the
PCM card is good also for this.

All the best,
Dante

.______________________________________________________________________.
|______                                                          ______|
|______ Dante Turrini – via F.Malaguti, 7 – 40126 BOLOGNA, ITALY ______|
|______ e-mail: reg1537@iperbole.bologna.it /Phone:+39 51 243150 ______|
|________________                                      ________________|
|________________ La musica e’ vita, la vita e’ musica ________________|
|____________________ Music is life, life is music ____________________|
|______________________________________________________________________|

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:20:01 +0100
From: reg1537@comune.bologna.it (Dante Turrini)
Subject: Re: M1* Sounds available

>Serge, That program for the Mac is on John Sexton’s web site I think it
>is called midiex or something. I downloaded it myself hoping it might be
>for the Atari but (sob!) it was not to be.
Can anybody tell me the link to the John Sexton’s web site?

Thanks,
Dante

.______________________________________________________________________.
|______                                                          ______|
|______ Dante Turrini – via F.Malaguti, 7 – 40126 BOLOGNA, ITALY ______|
|______ e-mail: reg1537@iperbole.bologna.it /Phone:+39 51 243150 ______|
|________________                                      ________________|
|________________ La musica e’ vita, la vita e’ musica ________________|
|____________________ Music is life, life is music ____________________|
|______________________________________________________________________|

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From: morritt@passport.ca
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 96 18:57 EST
Subject: M1* Re: M1 Patches

Hi All!
There was a message on the list today that talked about a ton of patches for
the M1 from a site listed on John Sextons home page (something about “33”)??)
Unfortunately, my machine responded to my commands and erased it before I
could read it!
Could someone forward it to me?
Thanks a lot,
fumble fingers
Rob Morritt
morritt@passport.ca

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:10:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Spamboy <randy@isaac.biola.edu>
Subject: Re: M1* T series software: I AM INTERESTED!

I am very interested in this program also.  If any of you have it, please
uuencode it and send it to me.  That would be infinitely appreciated.

Randy Budnikas        * * * * * * * * * * * * * *  Randy@isaac.biola.edu
8182 Glengarry Green  *SPACE MONKEY ENTERPRISES *           714-522-BITE
Buena Park, CA 90621  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * fax/modem:714-522-6323

On Sun, 3 Mar 1996, Dante Turrini wrote:

> Dear Serge,
>
> >Someone recently has asked if it is possible to construct multisamples in a
> >T-Board using SysEx. The answer is YES, if you have a Mac computer. There is
> >a freeware program that Korg USA unleashed after they discontinued the
> >T-Series, which enables you to make multisamples by using your Mac. I am not
> >sure if I still have it in my computer, but I have sent the program to
> >several interested T users from this list, so it should be available.
> I was the one. If you still have this program, PLEASE send it to me!
> Although I am an Atari user, I have access to the Macintosh, and maybe I
> will migrate to it in the near future. Still, it’s always better this than
> nothing.
>
> >I don’t have my T anymore, I still have my sound library. I have a great 50
> >disk sample library for Tex and many (3000) programs for T and M1 on
> >T-Floppies and Galaxy lib. I also have a program card for M1ex/T with nice
> >sounds. This card is particularly usefull for M1EX users as the second sound
> >bank. I don’t use those sounds anymore, so please e-mail me if you are
> >interested in any of the above.
> If you make a fair quotation. I might be interested in buying from you a
> lot of this material. Is the card Program only or also PCM data? in the
> latter case, I am VERY interested to it, since I own also a WS-A/D and the
> PCM card is good also for this.
>
> All the best,
> Dante
>
> .______________________________________________________________________.
> |______                                                          ______|
> |______ Dante Turrini – via F.Malaguti, 7 – 40126 BOLOGNA, ITALY ______|
> |______ e-mail: reg1537@iperbole.bologna.it /Phone:+39 51 243150 ______|
> |________________                                      ________________|
> |________________ La musica e’ vita, la vita e’ musica ________________|
> |____________________ Music is life, life is music ____________________|
> |______________________________________________________________________|

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:33:06 -0500
From: John Sexton <jsexton@gate.net>
Subject: Re: M1* Re: patches..

At 04:57 PM 3/3/96 -0400, you wrote:

>On John Sexton’s web site, if you follow #33 (korg synth zone) you will
>find a section there on “patchthing” and LOTS of M1 patches. The
>patchthing will only work on an IBM computer so I am unable to download
>them since I am Atari based.
>I wonder if you or anyone else on the list has explored these patches and
>if so I wonder if they could be downloaded to John’s web site in .syx
>format so that everyone could then use them no matter what their computer
>platform?

For anyone interested the M1 page is at:

http://www.gate.net/~jsexton/m1.htm

As far as differing computer platforms go:

.syx files are straight binary sysex files and work on any computer platform.

Most of the .syx files on my page are compressed in .zip format since I have
found that Netscape will often attempt to load them like text in the window
rather than download them. The compression reduces file size and thus
bandwidth, eliminates Netscape’s tendancy for displaying the file and if I
want to put a readme file with the bank I can zip it up along with the bank
and keep it as one file.

What you need to use them is a sysex bank loader for your computer to send
and recieve sysex bulk dumps to and from your M1, a program that will
decompress .zip files and a midi interface of course.

The m1sounds.zip file in the editor/librarian section of the M1 page has a
Windows sysex program called wsysex and a dos program called MidiEx and
(believe it or not) a Mac program called MidiEx as well as a couple of banks
of sounds. I have found that many Mac users have had difficulty extracting
the MidiEx Mac file from m1sounds.zip so I posted a link in the More info
section to MidiEx Mac on another ftp server. Also in the more info section
is a link to an Atari M1 bankloader. I don’t know anything about it so it
may or may not be able to handle sysex files. Also Noise uploaded me a Mac
editor/librarian called simply M1.hqx which is at my ftp directory and
Forrest Trenholm also uploaded me a Mac ed/lib called M1 which is also
available at my ftp directory <ftp.gate.net/pub/users/jsexton/> or
<ftp://gate.net/pub/users/jsexton/> (They may be the same program for all I
know).

If you find the filetype or extension is a problem with a bulk dump utility
you have for your computer simply change the name or extension or properties
or whatever since the data itself doesn’t really “need” a file to be called
anything particular. I have loaded files with a .dmo or .m1 and all kinds of
arbitrary extensions as long as the file format doesn’t add any extra
digital garbage to the sysex information its ok.

I have tried to keep the M1 files as accessible as possible to users of all
platforms but there will always be some trade-offs like using .zip
compression or using background images or colors that might look like
garbage when using lynx but look great in Netscape. It could be worse I
could use Midiquest for Windows format and uuencode every file and compress
it with a .arc or tar.z extension and use a webpage that uses Netscape
frames and animation and morphing backgrounds that are certain to crash many
web browsers.  =:0 aargh!

If you find a good sysex bulk dump program for the Atari tell me where it is
so I can post a link to it.
– ——————————————–
J O H N  S E X T O N
jsexton@gate.net
http://www.gate.net/~jsexton/index.htm
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From: Barry Entlich <entlich@bartal.com>
Subject: Re: M1* Re: patches..
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:34:02 -0500 (EST)

Nick Mattison wrote:

> On John Sexton’s web site, if you follow #33 (korg synth zone) you will
> find a section there on “patchthing” and LOTS of M1 patches. The
> patchthing will only work on an IBM computer so I am unable to download
> them since I am Atari based.
>
> I wonder if you or anyone else on the list has explored these patches and
> if so I wonder if they could be downloaded to John’s web site in .syx
> format so that everyone could then use them no matter what their computer
> platform?

I’ve been “lurking” on this list for a while now, so I guess it’s time
for me to speak up. I use an IBM, and was able to download and unzip
the “patchthing” program. However, I had no success in downloading the
patch files themselves. They are shown as being “text/plain”, and may be
getting corrupted during the download. I believe that they should be
14,300 bytes long, but I’m getting various (longer) byte counts, and the
program rejects these files.

I’ll rephrase Nick’s question: Has anyone successfully downloaded the
patch files (the ones with the .m1p extension)? If so, are they 14,300
bytes long? The reason I ask is that I once wrote a program to convert
such files to sysex format, and would do these if someone could send
them to me in a form which wouldn’t get corrupted during transmission.
(I can’t seem to download the files as binaries, which would probably
solve the problem.) I could then send them to nigelsp@rain.org, so
that they’d be available at Synth Zone to be used with other than IBM
computers, as Nick (and the Web site) requested.

By the way, my own Korg synth is a T3, in case anyone is interested 🙂 .

– –Barry Entlich
entlich@bartal.com
I said what I said. Bartal may or may not concur.

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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 03:15:47 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: M1* Re: patches..

Hi Nick,
I haven’t tried it yet. I will 2nite (if I get Windhooze up and running
again — yes, it crashed again! I am starting to believe in the Mac!!!)
If it works, I’ll try to convert…

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 03:21:23 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: M1* Sounds available

I second this suggestion. Remember: all it is is bits and bytes (in our
day and age: information) and information wants 2 B free…  😉

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com
*** Reply to note of 03/03/96 01:47
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:17:30 -0500
To: korg-m1-l@io.org
From: noise@io.org
Subject: Re: M1* Sounds available

At 3:23 PM on 3/2/96, ChickenSax@aol.com wrote:
>Hi all!
>So I sold my T3EX, but I still enjoy this forum and I am willing to share as
>much of my M1 knowledge as I can.
>Altough
>I don’t have my T anymore, I still have my sound library. I have a great 50
>disk sample library for Tex and many (3000) programs for T and M1 on
>T-Floppies and Galaxy lib. I also have a program card for M1ex/T with nice
>sounds. This card is particularly usefull for M1EX users as the second sound
>bank. I don’t use those sounds anymore, so please e-mail me if you are
>interested in any of the above.

Hows about uploading the M1 sounds to John Sexton’s Web Page? That way
you’ll share them with the world!

or at least me… ;^)

***********************************************************
noise
noise@io.org                   http://www.io.org/~noise/

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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 03:42:39 EST
From: “R. Lohman” <r_lohman@nl.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: M1* Private Patch Sharing

Hou ’bout SYSEX? I unfortunately do not have Galaxy. Still looking for
the holy grail: a patch editor/librarian that actually works under Wind-
hooze…

Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
Rein Lohman
IBM internal: NL52932 at UITVM1
Internet: r_lohman@nl.ibm.com
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Date: 03 Mar 96 00:45:38 EST
From: Graeme White <72103.1507@compuserve.com>
To: <korg-m1-l@io.org>
Subject: Re: M1* Private Patch Sharing

Hi – I have a reasonably large & varied collection, in Galaxy format,
which I’ll be happy to mail to you so you can pick & choose. Probably
better than any other method, but you choose!

Graeme

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From: Barry Entlich <entlich@bartal.com>
Subject: Re: M1* Re: patches..
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:36:49 -0500 (EST)

Hi John–

Thanks for responding to my message, and for the M1 page.

> If you’re using the Wsysex program up the buffer to 20k at startup and you
> should at least be able to open the file.

I’m not using Windows — in fact, my access is via “lynx”, and therefore
isn’t even a graphical interface.

> As far as those files being corrupted I’m not sure. I have had a bit of
> trouble loading them into my M1 causing me to get all kinds of junk
> characters and stuff and I also found that if I just renamed them as .syx
> Cakewalk still wouldn’t recognize them as sysex files.

The “synththing” program, M1.EXE, saves files without sysex header, or
end-of-exclusive bytes. It also compresses the data itself by saving it as
8-bit bytes, while the Korg data format uses 7-bit bytes. I tried saving my
own patch bank, and M1.EXE “created” a 14,300 byte file. M1 sysex patch bank
files, as you may know, are 16,350 bytes long, at least on *my* system 🙂 .
It’s not surprising that you got junk when trying to load these files, or
that you couldn’t get Cakewalk to recognize them just by changing the file
extension.

I didn’t say that the files were definitely corrupted, just that by the
time I got them *here* they appeared to be, since they weren’t 14,300
bytes long.

>                                                       Despite all of that I
> have gotten them to load successfully on my M1 so I guess if I did it again
> I could simply send them back to my computer and save them as true sysex
> files.

The program I wrote will convert the 14,300 byte files into proper
16,350 byte ones, without the need for anyone to load, dump, and
re-save.

So, my question is still this: Are the files at Synth Zone 14,300 bytes
long?

>        One thing I found was if I did end up with scrambeld junk in my M1 I
> got the best results by initialising the M1’s memory in between attempts so
> I was starting with a blank slate. I don’t know the T series initialization
> keystrokes but on the M1 its powerup holding the INT-CARD-COMBI keys
> simultaneously. I’m in the middle of several recording projects at the
> moment but if I get a chance I could try this and then send you the banks in
> sysex form.

I don’t want to take you from your work, but getting the files would be
appreciated. However, if you could tell me what method (which program)
you used to load the files into your M1, it would help me attempt to do
that here.

Sorry for being so long-winded, but I’d like to help make those patches
available to anyone who wants them.

– –Barry
entlich@bartal.com

——-
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:28:44 -0500
From: John Sexton <jsexton@gate.net>
Subject: Re: M1* Re: patches..

At 08:36 AM 3/4/96 -0500, you wrote:

>> If you’re using the Wsysex program up the buffer to 20k at startup and you
>> should at least be able to open the file.
>
>I’m not using Windows — in fact, my access is via “lynx”, and therefore
>isn’t even a graphical interface.

I was referring to the Windows sysex bulk dump utility found in the
m1sounds.zip file on my page. Sorry about confusing the issue.

>The “synththing” program, M1.EXE, saves files without sysex header, or
>end-of-exclusive bytes. It also compresses the data itself by saving it as
>8-bit bytes, while the Korg data format uses 7-bit bytes. I tried saving my
>own patch bank, and M1.EXE “created” a 14,300 byte file. M1 sysex patch bank
>files, as you may know, are 16,350 bytes long, at least on *my* system 🙂 .
>It’s not surprising that you got junk when trying to load these files, or
>that you couldn’t get Cakewalk to recognize them just by changing the file
>extension.
>So, my question is still this: Are the files at Synth Zone 14,300 bytes
>long?

Duh! Now I understand. Until today I didn’t realize that there were a bunch
of patch banks and that proprietary bank loader at Synth Zone. I downloaded
the program but I am using a MOTU PC Midi Express interface that doesn’t
seem to work right in Dos and I’m using Windows95 and my midi interface is
on port300 and not 330 so I’m not really able to use that M1 patchthing
program. The files at Synth Zone appear to be 13k which would be around
14,300. Most of the files on my page are 16,350 with the exception of the
files included in the m1sounds.zip file which are 16,512 bytes long. I don’t
know what it would take to convert those .m1p patches to standard sysex format.

>I’ll rephrase Nick’s question: Has anyone successfully downloaded the
>patch files (the ones with the .m1p extension)? If so, are they 14,300
>bytes long? The reason I ask is that I once wrote a program to convert
>such files to sysex format, and would do these if someone could send
>them to me in a form which wouldn’t get corrupted during transmission.
>(I can’t seem to download the files as binaries, which would probably
>solve the problem.) I could then send them to nigelsp@rain.org, so
>that they’d be available at Synth Zone to be used with other than IBM
>computers, as Nick (and the Web site) requested.

I logged into rain.org with my ftp client though and grabbed all of those
.m1p files. (I  wasn’t able to download them when I used Netscape because of
the deal with Netscape trying to display the file instead of downloading
it.)  I can zip them all up and post them to my ftp directory or I could
email them to you as a MIME or BinHex attachment.
– ——————————————–
J O H N  S E X T O N
jsexton@gate.net
http://www.gate.net/~jsexton/index.htm
– ——————————————–

——-
From: ddennis@georgian.net
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:13:18 -0500
Subject: Re: M1* Re: patches..

>The files at Synth Zone appear to be 13k which would be around
>14,300.

Yes they are 14,300 bytes, I have downloaded the patches and tried them, they
appear to work fine.

>I don’t know what it would take to convert those .m1p patches to standard
>sysex format.

I have converted some, but the long way around, load with one program, save with
another, etc.

Darrell

——-
From: advrock@advstaff.com
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 96 15:16 EST
Subject: Re: M1* Private Patch Sharing

>Hi – I have a reasonably large & varied collection, in Galaxy format,
>which I’ll be happy to mail to you so you can pick & choose. Probably
>better than any other method, but you choose!
>
>Graeme
>
could you e-mail me the galaxy file as well.. thanks,
jtrey@advstaff.com

——-
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:18:12 +0100
From: trntrm01@cidoc.iuav.unive.it (Michele Tornatore)
Subject: Re: M1* downloading help

>If the ones you can’t read are .SYX files, “Bulk Sysex Utility” is a Mac
>program that will deal with them. I’ll upload it if you let me know where
>and when. One thing though: this program doesn’t work if you have a fancy
>Midi interface like a Studio 4/5 or Midi Time Piece.

I totally don’t agree with smalt@nedernet.nl (Chris Smalt). I own a
MidiTime Piece II from Mark of the Unicorn and it works FLAWLESSLY with
Bulk Sysex Utility.
It’s internal set up is the following:
– – 1MHz rate 4x.
cheers 😉 Michele Tornatore trntrm01@cidoc.iuav.unive.it

“Omnes artes quae ad humanitatem pertinent habent
quoddam commune vinculum, et quasi cognatione
quadam inter se continentur.”

(CICERONE, Pro Archia, I, 2)

Michele Tornatore
e-mail: trntrm01@cidoc.iuav.unive.it
Snail: Via A. Aleardi, 7/B
30172 Mestre (Venezia) ITALY
Tel. 39 – 41 – 988074
Fax  39 – 41- 958747

——-
From: Barry Entlich <entlich@bartal.com>
Subject: Re: M1* Re: patches..
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:26:49 -0500 (EST)

John Sexton wrote:

> Duh! Now I understand. Until today I didn’t realize that there were a bunch
> of patch banks and that proprietary bank loader at Synth Zone. I downloaded
> the program but I am using a MOTU PC Midi Express interface that doesn’t
> seem to work right in Dos and I’m using Windows95 and my midi interface is
> on port300 and not 330 so I’m not really able to use that M1 patchthing
> program. The files at Synth Zone appear to be 13k which would be around
> 14,300. Most of the files on my page are 16,350 with the exception of the
> files included in the m1sounds.zip file which are 16,512 bytes long. I don’t
> know what it would take to convert those .m1p patches to standard sysex
format.

All it will take is my conversion program. I know it works, because I
already tried it on a .m1p file which “patchthing” (M1.EXE) created
from my own dump. I can convert each file in a few seconds, as long as
I can get them here intact.

> I logged into rain.org with my ftp client though and grabbed all of those
> .m1p files. (I  wasn’t able to download them when I used Netscape because of
> the deal with Netscape trying to display the file instead of downloading
> it.)  I can zip them all up and post them to my ftp directory or I could
> email them to you as a MIME or BinHex attachment.

If you could e-mail them, that would probably solve my problem. My current
net interface can’t deal with MIME, but I do have a DOS BinHex decoder, so
that *should* work. UUEncoding would be even better, if that’s an option.

Thanks again.

– –Barry
entlich@bartal.com

——-
Subject: Re: M1* T series software: I AM INTERESTED!
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 00:01:30 -0000
From: GWhite@www.inca.de (Graeme White)

>There is
>> >a freeware program that Korg USA unleashed after they discontinued the
>> >T-Series, which enables you to make multisamples by using your Mac. I am
not
>> >sure if I still have it in my computer, but I have sent the program to
>> >several interested T users from this list, so it should be available.

I’d be very interested in this also!

Graeme

——-
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:15:01 -0400
From: acdas@comet.net (M.Long)
Subject: M1* suggestion

To all subscribers:
I’m new to the list but already have noticed others experiencing a
difficulty I’ve experienced. A number of members have voiced disappointment
in being unable to download M1 programs and combis–a problem I’ve had. As
w/ any subject matter there will be a range of experience from neophytes,
that’s me, all the way to extremely computer literate practitioners. But we
all, at one point in time, start at the beginning.

Many members and other individuals use different formats to place M1
prog.’s on the net. My question is, would anyone who’s experienced like to
help construct a simple “fact-sheet” for downloading some of the most
common formats? For ex., as noise helpfully pointed out: something on net
may be in Bin Hexed Stuff-It-solution: drag to Stuff-It Expander. Or
C.Smalt writes: something in .Syx files-solution: Bulk Sysex Utility will
deal w/ these. Or Stuffit Deluxe arch.-solution is ?

Perhaps we could compile a sheet to have noise post in our forum so we
could all access M1 sounds easily. This would include: posted format name,
then the solution for easiest download. Also helpful would be to keep in
mind that many of us have had no training on computers, except that they’re
great typewriters w/ a very effecient erase feature. (little levity) So any
helpful hints on implementing the solutions would be deeply appreciated. We
could send noise, or even me the formats we see most commonly, then post
them and have those who know give the solutions. Then perhaps noise would
post a list of solutions. This is just a thought & I’d appreciate any
feedback posted to our forum.

One last question: does anyone know a source of cheaper blank cards for the
M1 for downloading customized sound banks to? Retail $75-100 is too steep.

Another suggestion is that perhaps we could have a user level ID:when
someone asks a technical question they would ID themselves as 1=beginner,
2=intermediate, & 3=proficient, and that way whomever replied could tailor
their reply for the proper level. An id of 1 would get a simplistic answer,
2 a little technical & 3 could get the words that are unpronouncable. Just
an idea.

One more last question: are there any books, resources, etc. explaining
formatting of Korg program sounds and how to download? Thanking you all in
advance. Feedback please.

——-
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:55:49 -0600
From: stenseth@mcs.net (Craig & Dawn Stenseth)
Subject: M1* netscape trying to display text

John wrote about those M1 patch files, etc…
>I logged into rain.org with my ftp client though and grabbed all of those
>.m1p files. (I  wasn’t able to download them when I used Netscape because of
>the deal with Netscape trying to display the file instead of downloading
>it.)

If you’re using the same Netscape as me (on Windows, I think the 2.0 beta
something),
put the mouse pointer over the thing-to-be-downloaded, and click on the RIGHT
mouse button. Scroll down to the ‘Save this link as…’ item, then it’ll prompt
you for a file name on your computer. (and I displayed quite a few sysex files
and other crap before I found this…).
Craig

——-
Subject: Re: M1* netscape trying to display text
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 21:57:35 -0800
From: Robert Clevenger <clev@cisco.com>

“Craig” == Craig & Dawn Stenseth <stenseth@mcs.net> writes:

Craig> John wrote about those M1 patch files, etc…
>> I logged into rain.org with my ftp client though and grabbed all of
>> those .m1p files. (I wasn’t able to download them when I used
>> Netscape because of the deal with Netscape trying to display the file
>> instead of downloading it.)

Craig> If you’re using the same Netscape as me (on Windows, I think the
Craig> 2.0 beta something), put the mouse pointer over the
Craig> thing-to-be-downloaded, and click on the RIGHT mouse
Craig> button. Scroll down to the ‘Save this link as…’ item, then
Craig> it’ll prompt you for a file name on your computer. (and I
Craig> displayed quite a few sysex files and other crap before I found
Craig> this…).  Craig

And if you’re on a Mac, click and hold for a second and you’ll get the
same menu.

– – rob

——-
Date: 05 Mar 96 01:59:16 EST
From: Graeme White <72103.1507@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: M1* Private Patch Sharing

>>Hi – I have a reasonably large & varied collection, in Galaxy format,
>>which I’ll be happy to mail to you so you can pick & choose. Probably
>>better than any other method, but you choose!
>>
>>Graeme
>>
>could you e-mail me the galaxy file as well.. thanks,
>jtrey@advstaff.com

OK – how about identifying some location so we can all upload our patches
(in a variety of formats – gulp) so they’re available to all to pick &
choose? I’d be happy to do this, any suggestions anyone? Otherwise we’ll
all be uploading patches for the rest of the year 🙂

Graeme

——-
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:14:36 +0100
From: smalt@nedernet.nl (Chris Smalt)
Subject: Re: M1* Sounds available

Nick wrote:

> When I hook up my T3EX to either my sequencer
>(Atari..Cubase) or to my Oberheim Drummer which I have just bought over
>the net, I find the following problem. If I try to change patches in edit
>combi mode or combi mode or Seq mode, the patches change 2 at a time.

I think that’s because the up-arrow key sends out an “increment” Midi
command. This goes into your Atari or Drummer, which echoes it back to the
T3, which makes it move up one more.

To get rid of it, set Midi Thru to “off” on the Atari/Drummer. Alternately,
if Cubase lets you filter out individual controllers, you can set it up to
ignore controllers 96 and 97 (increment and decrement).

Chris

——-
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:07:53 -0800
From: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow)
Subject: M1* How much?

Hi all,

I think I am finally going to sell my Korg M1.  So how much should I
ask for?  This is a totally tricked out Korg M1 with the InVision
upgrade, case, bunch of cards, etc……

Tell me what you think a realistic asking price would be.

Thanks in advance

Here is the Ad so far:

For Sale

Korg M1 (Plus One)  Workstation

Price:

Includes:

Keyboard, case, chords, manual, 10+ ROM cards (both PCM and program),
library of M1 sounds in sysex format, InVision PlusOne ROM upgrade.

This is a fully tricked out Korg M1.  It includes the Invision PlusOne
upgrade which used to sell for around $400 + installation fees.  The
InVision upgrade added 4 MB of new samples to the M1….including one
of THE BADDEST Hammond sounds I have heard on a keyboard to date.  I
thought about keeping the thing around just to keep that hammond tone.
The InVision upgrade breathes new life into an M1….turns it into
an entirely new keyboard.

I am also including a box full of RAM, ROM and PCM cards for the M1.  Off
the top of my head…I have Synth1, Synth2, Woodwinds, Drums, and a bunch
of program cards including some Film texture ones.  I will also send any
and all sysex program banks I have.  I probably have close to 2 dozen
different banks of sounds.  Some are 3rd party and some are collected
of the internet.

Also included is a great case for gigging or whatever you want.

– -steve

– -steve

– ——————————————————————
Steve Schow         | But you don’t need to use the claw, if you
sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear of the big paw paw……
(408) 973-9111 x110 | Have I given you a clue……?
(408) 977-5955 (hm) |                    – Baloo the Bear
– ——————————————————————
HomePage:  http://www.bstage.com/
HomeAddr:  sjs@midiman.bstage.com
– ——————————————————————

——-
From: bhapgood@spry.com
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:53:28 -0800
Subject: Re: M1* Re: patches..

Hey guys, I had absolutely no problems using m1.exe.

It’s a great little tool.

Baz.

——-
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:03:55 -0400
From: acdas@comet.net (M.Long)
Subject: M1* questions & suggestions

To all subscribers:
I’m new to the list but already have noticed others experiencing a
difficulty I’ve experienced. A number of members have voiced disappointment
in being unable to download M1 programs and combis–a problem I’ve had. As
w/ any subject matter there will be a range of experience from neophytes,
that’s me, all the way to extremely computer literate practitioners. But we
all, at one point in time, start at the beginning.

Many members and other individuals use different formats to place M1
prog.’s on the net. My question is, would anyone who’s experienced like to
help construct a simple “fact-sheet” for downloading some of the most
common formats? For ex., as noise helpfully pointed out: something on net
may be in Bin Hexed Stuff-It-solution: drag to Stuff-It Expander. Or
C.Smalt writes: something in .Syx files-solution: Bulk Sysex Utility will
deal w/ these. Or Stuffit Deluxe arch.-solution is ?

Perhaps we could compile a sheet to have noise post in our forum so we
could all access M1 sounds easily. This would include: posted format name,
then the solution for easiest download. Also helpful would be to keep in
mind that many of us have had no training on computers, except that they’re
great typewriters w/ a very effecient erase feature. (little levity) So any
helpful hints on implementing the solutions would be deeply appreciated. We
could send noise, or even me the formats we see most commonly, then post
them and have those who know give the solutions. Then perhaps noise would
post a list of solutions. This is just a thought & I’d appreciate any
feedback posted to our forum.

One last question: does anyone know a source of cheaper blank cards for the
M1 for downloading customized sound banks to? Retail $75-100 is too steep.

One more last question-what about the possibility of a user-ID in regard to
questions from members? Ex.- #1 for beginner, #2 for next level up, & #3
for experienced computer user. If someone asks a question they could ID
themselves as either 1, 2 or 3 & then the person answering would know at
what level to answer the question. Just a thought. Feedback appreciated.

——-
From: dbmack@inforamp.net (D.B.Mack)
Subject: M1* M3R
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 02:52:46 GMT

Has any M3R user reading this group found a web site that deals with our (apparently) obscure
instrument. I’m trying to find an editor/library application that will handle combi editing
(something less expensive than Unisyn) but I’m beginning to fear I have an obso

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